Are there stone giants in the hobbit book

However, I'm not having much luck finding Tolkien's reasons for abandoning the idea — Jason Baker. Also, maybe the Stone Giants were actually a kind of Troll hill trolls of Gorgoroth, anyone? Gandalf wouldn't expect to find "more or less decent" trolls. Show 16 more comments. Active Oldest Votes. Improve this answer. Maksim Maksim 3, 1 1 gold badge 12 12 silver badges 30 30 bronze badges. Based on The Hobbit, you could say the same thing about almost any being in Tolkien's world- elves, goblins, Eagles, wizards, whatever.

He could have filled in the blanks regarding stone-Giants later, like he did with everything else. Well, here were are talking about Middle-Earth legendarium on the whole, and the Hobbit had to be merged with it. Elves, goblins, and wizards all have their specific origin in 'The Silmarillion'; stone giants do not. Add a comment. The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion - Book V, Chapter 2 Of course this is just a "legend", but giants being part of the mountains does seem to fit with the giants we meet in The Hobbit, and I think this is the only time Tolkien returned to this concept.

Sign up or log in Sign up using Google. Sign up using Facebook. Sign up using Email and Password. Post as a guest Name. Email Required, but never shown. Featured on Meta. Now live: A fully responsive profile. Their physical form was not described, nor was much else about them. Gandalf used to tell stories to Bilbo when he was young at parties about dragons, goblins, giants, and rescue of princesses, and the luck of widow's sons.

During the riddle game Bilbo thought of all the giants and Ogres he had heard of in tales. At one point Bilbo saw a rock in a stream, and wondered if it had been cast miles into the plain by some giant among giants.

Gandalf later remarked that he would like to find 'a more or less decent giant' to block several of the orc caves. Giants of the type mentioned in the Red Book of Westmarch are not so much as mentioned in the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

It is believed that as Tolkien expanded the Middle-earth cosmology, he simply dropped giants from it. In addition some of Tolkien's other material there was Wade who may be or have been based on a sea-giant of legend and Noroth , said to be a giant.

During the development of The Hobbit , an early draft described more traditional human-like giants;. However, this was edited to Gandalf telling stories of ' There may be a loose connection between the giants described in Farmer Giles of Ham and references to generic fairy tale giants mentioned in Hobbit tales.

There are two kinds of spirits, those divine and those destined to be incarnate. Someone like Morgoth who had share in all gifts of all other Ainur and the first to practice necromancy after elves came into being could have use this part of gift of our well known Masters of Spirits Namo and Irmo to trap spirits of dead elves to create things like dragons, werewolves, trolls and theory that orcs came from elves is more probable for me as well, after all other proposed origin are only early drafts or just that: in-universe theories.

Stone Giants could be one of those free agents, beings unique and still part of the physical world. Maybe they are just mountain version of Ents and Eagles Ents associated with trees, Eagles with air and birds, so why not some beings associated with stone. What about Valar, could they did so if slain? Also the physical harm they took would heal in new body only if enough power was left to do so. Can you shed some light on the matter? There are other giants such as frost giants who do not come into the tales.

Other stories such as the Father Christman Letters and Roverandom explicity tie in with the Legendarium. In particular, I think they may have come from the ranks of the Orossi or the Nandini, respectively the spirits of the mountains and of the vales. They may have been the stock Morgoth corrupted to create the Trolls. This Website does not collect personally identifying information for the sake of processing user data. Org earns commissions from qualifying purchases.

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